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ptc-3275727 PTCEmployee 4 posts since
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Oct 2, 2013 7:00 AM

PTC Mathcad Prime 3.0 now available

PTC Mathcad Prime 3.0 is now availble for download - either as a CD Image or as a web installer. Active Global Support customers can download the CD image from this location:

 

https://www.ptc.com/appserver/auth/it/esd/product.jsp?prodFamily=MCD

 

You can follow the attached instructions to update your license file.

 

If you don't have a current license and want to try out PTC Mathcad Prime 3.0 free for 30 days and then with a reduced functionality set for as long as you like, you can download Express by clicking this link:

 

http://free-dl.ptc.com/install/pim_installmgr_mathcad.exe

 

PTC Mathcad Prime 3.0 includes new features sych as Templates, Math Formatting, Math in Text, the Global Definiiton operator, Custom Function support and many more upgrades. We're always inetrested in feedback so please do upgrade your existing installation or try the product for free and let us know what you think!

 

Andy McGough

Product Manager - Mathcad.

  • WE Platinum 3,497 posts since
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    Oct 2, 2013 7:33 AM (in response to ptc-3275727)
    Re: PTC Mathcad Prime 3.0 now available

    Thanks.

    Any reason Prime 2 M010 isn't available anymore?

  • arbiter007 Bronze 21 posts since
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    Oct 2, 2013 9:21 AM (in response to ptc-3275727)
    Re: PTC Mathcad Prime 3.0 now available

    Never noticed this before, but All Functions listing is only psuedo-alphabetical, e.g., "Solving" is inserted between "Differential Equations" and "Expression Type."  Likewise, "Vector and Matrix" and "String" are not in alphabetical order.

     

    I would suggest that Find be included as part of the free functions, since its utility is much higher than Root, and is more likely to entice people to keep using Mathcad.

     

    TTFN

  • Virgil Bronze 57 posts since
    Mar 28, 2008
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    Oct 2, 2013 10:05 AM (in response to ptc-3275727)
    Re: PTC Mathcad Prime 3.0 now available

    3 versions with the same unfinished and ugly GUI !?!

    PTC, you don't get it. Improve the GUI quality !!! The GUI can be changed in 2 weeks. Is it so hard to do?

    We should wait another year?

     

    More Problems:

    No page width view.

    No One page view.

    No Two pages view.

    No zoom with Ctrl+wheel mouse.

    No vector graphic file support (wmf, emf ...)

    After you select a region the cursor should be turned into Move on entire region, not only on the border, because is very hard to select the brder.

    an so......

    I can write several pages but will be for nothing. It seems that PTC should have first an ear examination.

     

    In the end, using Prime with this GUI is like typing using boxing gloves.

  • arbiter007 Bronze 21 posts since
    Sep 13, 2013
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    Oct 2, 2013 11:06 AM (in response to ptc-3275727)
    Re: PTC Mathcad Prime 3.0 now available

    You guys couldn't be bothered to make MP3 files readable by MP2?  This will be yet another reason for people to abandon Mathcad altogether. 

     

    All the blather about Mathcad collaboration and sharing of resources that PTC touts just flew out the window.

    • WE Platinum 3,497 posts since
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      Oct 2, 2013 11:37 AM (in response to arbiter007)
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      Mo Det wrote:

       

      You guys couldn't be bothered to make MP3 files readable by MP2?  This will be yet another reason for people to abandon Mathcad altogether. 

      I agree. Usually when a company provides materials for their (future and existing) customers its an important goal to make it available to a as broad audience as possible. In Mathcad terms this always meant save it in MC11 format if ever possible and it went without saying that newer version of the program would be able to read older formats without hassle and also would be able to save in older formats. Not so PTC and Prime. At the time they are flooding the community with a myriad of documents, most of them will only be read by P3.

      A lot of those worksheets seem to part of a contiguous series but they post them singly one after the other - bad!

      Furthermore a lot of those worksheets consist of just a single function - noboday coming to the idea to summarize them in one single file? That all looks like a ridiculous sham of quantity that is simply not there.

      Its also questionable if providing those files in a dynamic environment like a discussion forum is really better than on a static webspace. But I understand that PTCs website is a real nightmare to navigate and so is not that much frequented.


  • ptc-185959 Copper 13 posts since
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    Oct 2, 2013 3:23 PM (in response to ptc-3275727)
    Re: PTC Mathcad Prime 3.0 now available

    Prime 3.0 FAQ # 7 Says "easily" convert older worksheets.  Requiring that another version be installed alongside should forbid the use of the word "easily".

     

    Quote:

     

    7. Can I use my old PTC Mathcad worksheets with PTC Mathcad Prime 3.0?

     

    Yes. You can easily convert worksheets from any previous version of PTC Mathcad into PTC Mathcad Prime 3.0. Differences in files will be listed in the conversion process and in the converted file for the user’s review. A detailed Migration Guide is included with the product.

     

    8. Can I use PTC Mathcad 15.0 and PTC Mathcad Prime 3.0 with the same license file?

     

    Yes. When you install PTC Mathcad Prime 3.0, you can install PTC Mathcad 15.0 and point it to your PTC Mathcad Prime 3.0 license. The converter requires PTC Mathcad 15.0 to be installed so that you can convert any worksheets from past versions of PTC Mathcad.

    • WE Platinum 3,497 posts since
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      Oct 2, 2013 3:56 PM (in response to ptc-185959)
      Re: PTC Mathcad Prime 3.0 now available

      I read in advance that Prime 3 would make it much easier to access files in older formats - if we still can't do it the normal way using the file open menu it seems that was a lie.

       

      Some PTC  employees also promised here that P3 would retrofit the missing support for useful cut and paste. Now I just read here some posts earlier that still no vector graphics would be supported. I hardly can believe that.

       

      Does anyone can explain whats going on her? Whats wrong with those people at PTC?

    • arbiter007 Bronze 21 posts since
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      Oct 2, 2013 8:24 PM (in response to ptc-185959)
      Re: PTC Mathcad Prime 3.0 now available

      Right, but the converter cannot convert MP2 files, since M15 can't read MP2, therefore, MP3 with M15 still cannot read MP2 files.

       

      TTFN

      • WE Platinum 3,497 posts since
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        Oct 2, 2013 10:15 PM (in response to arbiter007)
        Re: PTC Mathcad Prime 3.0 now available

        I didn't bother downloading and installing Prime 3 yet, but I hardly can believe that P3 can't read P2 files. I doubt it - not even PTC would do such a stupidity, I guess. At least P2 was able to read P1 files without converter in a transparent way as it shoud be and as it should (but doesn't) read MC15 and older formats.

         

        Can you really confirm that P3 is not able to read P2 file format?

    • DavidWilloughby Copper 7 posts since
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      Oct 24, 2013 1:11 PM (in response to ptc-185959)
      Re: PTC Mathcad Prime 3.0 now available

      I just installed Prime 3 (had Prime 2) and now I cannot convert my mathcad files. It worked fine with Prime 2. I uninstalled mathcad and reloaded,  but still will not convert. I get a failed msg each time. Any ideas?

  • VladimirN. Platinum 2,214 posts since
    Sep 26, 2010
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    Oct 3, 2013 4:47 AM (in response to ptc-3275727)
    Re: PTC Mathcad Prime 3.0 now available

    PDF "Read This First" and "What's New (Enhancement Details)" guide for new PTC's Mathcad Prime 3.0 release can be found in the attachment.

     

    Mathcad Prime 3.0 Logo.jpg

        

    Microsoft Hotfix's for Prime 3.0:

    http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2652531 (Microsoft Hotfix for Fonts).

    http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2588096 (Microsoft Hotfix for Memory and Performance Issues).

     

    Microsoft Hotfix.png

  • RickMason Copper 4 posts since
    Jan 25, 2011
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    Oct 7, 2013 12:56 PM (in response to ptc-3275727)
    Re: PTC Mathcad Prime 3.0 now available

    Nearly 3 years later and Prime 3.0 still cannot convert my v15 worksheets properly.  This even after I provided PTC with a very simple example of one of my worksheets that Prime 2.0 could not convert properly.  There are still several missing capabilities!  So I still CANNOT use Prime!  I have many, many v15 worksheets that need to be converted!

     

    In the mean time, there has been no functional advancement of v15.  PTC MUST stop charging for support for v15 until Prime does what it is finally supposed to do and that is to support ALL of v15 functionality in some way that does require a re-write of a worksheet.  The current PTC support strategy for v15 is absolute THEFT in my opinion!

     

    Very, very frustrated.

  • asgomez Copper 3 posts since
    Oct 7, 2013
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    Oct 7, 2013 4:46 PM (in response to ptc-3275727)
    Re: PTC Mathcad Prime 3.0 now available

    Of course I agree with all that has been said about the (lack of) quality of MP# versions... All of a sudden, and year after year, we longtime users (since 1992 in my case) have been deprived of the friendly and simple, but powerful, calculation platform we were accustomed to. And that's a shame since users like myself will never ever spend a single penny on a software like this.

     

    But I would like to point out something that has been omitted in this forum (or at least I haven't seen it yet) and is about "loading time"... Let me point this out: I run an i7 Dell Precision laptop with a FirePro Video card, a SSD and 32 GB RAM. That's a nice piece of hardware to run from any Autodesk soft to Accelrys Materials Studio to make some serious movie renders... Almost anything here (FLUENT calculations, ANSYS, etc...) is just a breeze... Needless to say that high demanding floating points operations like Quantum calculations and self consistent routines are very competitive.

     

    But wait, starting MP2 here is more than just a matter of sit and wait... Debugging old workbooks takes some time and graphing complex functions may not render quite niftly... Mathcad 15, however, does the things according to what is expected... maybe without the (silly and useless) ribbon, maybe more "orthodox", whatever you put it, but it does the job.

     

    So, not only MP# are bags full of garbage from an "interface point of view", or from a "portability POV", or from a "backwards compatibility POV", they are ALSO bags full of garbage from a "loading time POV" and from an "economy of resources POV".

     

    Unlike a colleague professor that encourages his students to try and buy the software, I just advice them to not to do so. The free WolframAlpha platform, Mathematica with a more competitive price, Maple and even tons of free open source GNU software do a lot more without such a lack of economy of resources.

     

    I think, PTC staff, that whatever you do with Mathcad, if it excludes M15 compatibility and continuity (M16, for instance), it will be destined forever to be forgotten and, definitely, not recommended. In my case, I have been a freelance (non-profit) anti-PTCMathcad activist since the Prime generation came to surface.

     

    Long live M15, the last of the mohicans. The rest is pure trash disguised with a (useless and ugly) ribbon.

    • ValeryOchkov Platinum 5,946 posts since
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      Oct 7, 2013 9:39 PM (in response to asgomez)
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      Amaury Suárez-Gómez wrote:

       

      Long live M15, the last of the mohicans. The rest is pure trash disguised with a (useless and ugly) ribbon.

      Long live USSR - Да здравствует СССР!

      I often see such a slogan on the streets.

      But most of my students prefer the new "ugly" Russia.

      It was impossible to develop old country for new time and old package for new computers.

      But I do not like new Russia too..

      The place is best of all where we haven't been at all.

      The grass is always geener on the other side of the fence

       

       

      Some strange analogy but not why?

       

      PS

      Long live M16 and Kalashnikov!

       

       

      • asgomez Copper 3 posts since
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        Oct 7, 2013 9:39 PM (in response to ValeryOchkov)
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        Dear Ochkov (I admit being a reader of your books, so all my respects to you and your work)

         

        I am a Cuban born fellow who grew up watching a lot of USSR-made cartoons and TV series and movies in the 80's... we used to be "sister nations", remember that? This documentary, sadly untranslated into english or russian, gives a fair account of that http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y-ArhjKLucw

         

        Currently I am a mexican citizen, 10 years living here now. And you may guess why I flew the island...

         

        Maybe this "current politics" fable serves good to PTC, that keeps evolving into something we dont know yet but we can assure it is clearly worst. Instead, they say they are improving but we dont know how, or what has been improved. Just like in the real socialism: "two steps forward, three steps backwards, but keep on smiling and cheering"

         

        Best regards, dear professor.

        • ValeryOchkov Platinum 5,946 posts since
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          Oct 7, 2013 10:53 PM (in response to asgomez)
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          Amaury Suárez-Gómez wrote:

           

          I admit being a reader of your books, so all my respects to you and your work

           

          Gracias. I am glad!

           

          I am a Cuban born

          I have had 10-15 students from Cuba. Now some of them work over the world.

          I have a dream to visit Cuba or/and... Mexico. Why not? Whith lectures for students...

          I must in Soviet time ask Soviet goverment to visit my friends in one country.

          Now I must ask the govenment of this country to visit my friends in this country. Compare please

           

           

          ...who grew up watching a lot of USSR-made...

          But not all so simple and linear...

          You can fly to Cuba from Florida for example and compare

          And You can fly to Cuba from San Salvador, Honduras, Columbia, etc and compare too

          Or from Venezuela

          • asgomez Copper 3 posts since
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            Oct 7, 2013 10:59 PM (in response to ValeryOchkov)
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            Of course nothing is so linear... and I also have seen the world. So that comparison has been made and is continously corrected and appreciated, believe me. Life as it is, no matter how or where, should be appreciated.

             

            By the way, USSR cartoons were very very good ones... the bad thing was that we were exposed ONLY to USSR (and, of course, cuban) cartoons and that was the subject of never-ending-jokes and punch lines.Some of us were even forced to study russian (me, for example) instead of english as a second language. But I forgot almost everything...

             

            However, the good ones always survive: Chejov, Pushkin, Dovstoievski, Tarkovski, Nikita Mijalkov, Perelman books, Matveev courses, Landau-Lifshitz books... Oh, those MIR editons, I have them here with me, I travelled with all those physics and mathematics books... As you can see, professor, those are evidences of a good appreciation of a non-linear reality.

             

            Can you speak spanish?? I mean, to communicate to a wide audience in spanish??

    • ptc-3774368 Copper 12 posts since
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      Oct 11, 2013 8:50 AM (in response to asgomez)
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      Amaury Suárez-Gómez wrote:

       

      Long live M15, the last of the mohicans. The rest is pure trash disguised with a (useless and ugly) ribbon.

      I AGREE WIH YOU - LONG LIVE THE OLD KING V15

      ALL PRIME VERSIONS ARE BAD JOKES !

      AND LACK OF LOYALTY TO OLD CUSTUMERS !

  • GerritBarrere Copper 20 posts since
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    Oct 7, 2013 5:29 PM (in response to ptc-3275727)
    Re: PTC Mathcad Prime 3.0 now available

    I don't see in the features summary whether 2D plots can now have two separate Y axes, like M15.  Hello? Vector magnitude and phase on the same plot is really important, and they require different axes!  I have to resort to M15 whenever I need that, and that is getting really old.

  • ptc-5041437 Copper 1 posts since
    Oct 8, 2013
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    Oct 8, 2013 10:16 AM (in response to ptc-3275727)
    Re: PTC Mathcad Prime 3.0 now available

    Dear

    I have Mathcad Prime V2 adquired this year, is possible update to mathcad Prime V3

    Thanks.

    Luis

  • WE Platinum 3,497 posts since
    Nov 3, 2009
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    Oct 8, 2013 2:38 PM (in response to ptc-3275727)
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    Andrew W McGough, the links in the pdf you posted are broken - please fix that.

  • ptc-1468177 Copper 2 posts since
    Jun 15, 2010
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    Oct 10, 2013 12:12 AM (in response to ptc-3275727)
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    Does it support "lockable" areas or any other method to protect the worksheet?

  • VladimirN. Platinum 2,214 posts since
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    Oct 15, 2013 12:23 AM (in response to ptc-3275727)
    Re: PTC Mathcad Prime 3.0 now available

    Online Mathcad Prime 3.0 help center available here: http://www.ptc.com/cs/help/mathcad_hc/prime3_hc/

    • ValeryOchkov Platinum 5,946 posts since
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      Oct 15, 2013 1:05 AM (in response to VladimirN.)
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      Владимир, как я понимаю, вы работаете в РТС. Мы встречались с вами в Бостоне?

      Так вот передайте им в РТС, что они задолбали всех своим акаунтом. Я не могу с ним разобраться.

  • ptc-1379758 Bronze 81 posts since
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    Oct 16, 2013 3:53 PM (in response to ptc-3275727)
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    I have upgraded to Prime3 and found it to be usless.  There no 2D plotting.  2D plotting is used for:

     

    1. Pesentation of data

    2. Checking data

    3. Looking for tends

    4. And More

     

    I have been paying my maintenance for three years now and have not recieved a product that can be used.  What we are requesting is basic to engineering.  I am going to continue to use MacthCAD15 until I can find another program.

  • ptc-4907217 Copper 4 posts since
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    Oct 21, 2013 9:27 PM (in response to ptc-3275727)
    Re: PTC Mathcad Prime 3.0 now available

    What PTC MathCAD Prime 4.0 needs:

     

    - plus/minus operation displayed in a simple matrix 

    - more than one y-axis graphs

    - instant saving of MCDX to PDF file instead of saving it as an XPS first

    - Graph labels?

    - Instantly format long expressions to the next line so that it does not go out of the page limits, which is a major annoyance

  • Copper 1 posts since
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    Oct 22, 2013 12:58 AM (in response to ptc-3275727)
    Re: PTC Mathcad Prime 3.0 now available

    Shall Prime 2.0 liencese be effective be Prime 3.0

  • RogerMansfield Bronze 55 posts since
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    Oct 28, 2013 9:03 PM (in response to ptc-3275727)
    Re: PTC Mathcad Prime 3.0 now available

    Andy, I have a node-locked license. I obtained the license file via e-mail and put it on the Windows 7 desktop as instructed by the Global support link that you provided. I was able to configure Mathcad Prime 3.0 Express to use the license, by pointing to the license file on the desktop as instructed. (However, the PTC Mathcad options window shows the Host ID of the primary computer, not the home computer.) The home computer is the computer on which I just installed Mathcad Prime 3.0 Express. When I now tried to activate the license that I had just configured, the wizard allowed me to specify the home computer's Host ID, but it asked for a product code in the window above the Host ID selection. I know my customer number and sales order number, but don't know the product code -- where do I obtain that?

    • RogerMansfield Bronze 55 posts since
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      Oct 31, 2013 10:06 AM (in response to RogerMansfield)
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      Thank you, Andy, for having PTC's Kan Pasupathi contact me to assist with my Mathcad Prime 3.0 installation. It turned out that although I had downloaded Mathcad Prime 3.0, I had not actually installed it. I was trying to configure and activate the alpha tester's version from last March. Dumb mistake on my part!

          

      But once my mistake was pointed out to me, I was able to uninstall the Mathcad Prime 3.0 alpha version, install the Mathcad Prime 3.0 release, configure the node-locked license, and activate the license without further assistance.

          

      Despite some of the negative comments posted above, I think we are all committed to seeing Mathcad Prime evolve into a product that will do everything that Mathcad 15.0 can do.

          

      For me personally, Mathcad Prime is almost, but not quite there. In order to convert and continue with my most important Mathcad 15 worksheets, I need Mathcad 15's Math styles feature.

          

      Here is how I think it should work in Mathcad Prime: With the Math tab selected, click on a math variable in the worksheet, then click on Labels. Under Labels, Mathcad shows that my Label type is "Variable." This is where the new (to Mathcad Prime) feature is needed.

          

      Under "Variables," I should see a list containing the default Variable style, but also a list of user-defined math styles, if any. I want to be able to select the user-defined style "Vectors." As the creator of this user-defined Vectors style, I want it to be just like the default style Variables, but I want to make the Vector style boldface, in keeping with the standard notation for vectors in calculus and analytical geometry. Anyone who has used Mathcad 15 to create a user-defined math style will understand completely what I am talking about.

          

      To sum up, Mathcad 15's Math Styles still need to be implemented in Mathcad Prime. To me, this is very, very important. I have been able to work around this, but it takes a lot of extra work. Plus -- and most importantly -- the lack of Math styles in Mathcad Prime means that I must still publish my most important work as Mathcad 15 worksheets rather than Mathcad Prime worksheets.

  • BESchmitt Copper 10 posts since
    Jan 24, 2007
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    Dec 4, 2013 2:52 PM (in response to ptc-3275727)
    Re: PTC Mathcad Prime 3.0 now available

    Andrew,

     

    Right now, I have less than 50% conversion success using PRIME 3.0 (v15 M010 converter) for my existing v12 thru v15 mathcad files.  Over 50% of the files I have FAIL to convert (no collapsed or locked regions, no EXCEL interfaces ... just Mathcad!).  These would take man-months to rebuid from scratch.  At this level, PRIME is of ZERO use to me and I will be forced to stop using PTC products as this negatively impacts the future capabilites of my company.  Any thoughts?

    • WE Platinum 3,497 posts since
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      Dec 4, 2013 3:14 PM (in response to BESchmitt)
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      Right now, I have less than 50% conversion success using PRIME 3.0 (v15 M010 converter) for my existing v12 thru v15 mathcad files.

      Sure, Prime is a highly unfinished and most incomplete product No idea why somebody thinks it could be called version 3.0.

      Or, as someone else has formulated so appropriate - Prime is what you get if you replace engineering by marketing.

      • BESchmitt Copper 10 posts since
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        Dec 4, 2013 3:26 PM (in response to WE)
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        lol ... I'd laugh even harder if this weren't so serious.  I can only hope PTC folks read these. Unfortunately. this also reminds me of when Mathsoft (pre-PTC) released verion 8 and it did not work until they released Service Pack 3.

        • WE Platinum 3,497 posts since
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          Dec 4, 2013 3:54 PM (in response to BESchmitt)
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          I can only hope PTC folks read these.

          Think they do - and ignore.

           

          this also reminds me of when Mathsoft (pre-PTC) released verion 8 and it did not work until they released Service Pack 3.

          Just think of Mathcad12 - the worst version ever (apart from Prime).

          • BESchmitt Copper 10 posts since
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            Dec 11, 2013 10:28 AM (in response to WE)
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            After ranting and sending in a Case file, I did in fact receive support.  Kudos to PTC for that (thank you).  The issue turned out to be simple (speaking only to file conversion) where embedded pictures are not stripped out or ignored by the PRIME converter, it simply failed.  I had to manually clean files in v15 first.  This is NOT identified in their migration guide (though the fact they do not have a picture tool perhaps should have been a clue).  After cleaning up files, they did in fact convert (at least to 'read' them in PRIME).  Note to PTC - add diagnostic information as to WHY it fails (trial and error is not acceptable). However, as most of you already know, PRIME 3.0 is still not where it should be. I was amazed that the text editor has no sub/super-scripting.  I want Mathcad to provide a better text tool to provide more professional looking documents, not less.  I am converting to PRIME primarily for future issues with ensuring 64-bit compatibility (and next version OS).  However, they have made this more painful than it should be. We avoided 2.0 because it lacked global variables.  That's available now, but PRIME needs more equivalency to v15 (preaching to the choir here). 'Finishing' the conversion will take days per file to reformat and convert incompatabilites with v15.  This was borderline for moving on to other software and starting from scratch becuase of real cost (manhours).  Not to mention a new learning curve cost due to a signfcantly different user interface.

  • ptc-3774368 Copper 12 posts since
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    Dec 4, 2013 7:22 PM (in response to ptc-3275727)
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    FOR ME V15.0 IS THE LAST GOOD WORKING  SOFTWARE ...

    WHY TO BUY UN-USEFULL PRIME ?

    I HOPE SOMEBODY WILL BUY PTC TO STOP THIS JOKE ...

    • WE Platinum 3,497 posts since
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      Dec 4, 2013 8:03 PM (in response to ptc-3774368)
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      WHY TO BUY UN-USEFULL PRIME ?

      Because you get a free copy of Mathcad 15 :-)

      • ptc-3774368 Copper 12 posts since
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        Dec 4, 2013 10:40 PM (in response to WE)
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        Werner Exinger wrote:

         

        WHY TO BUY UN-USEFULL PRIME ?

        Because you get a free copy of Mathcad 15 :-)

        YOU ARE RIGHT...

        IT IS THE ONLY WAY PTC CAN FORCE US TO GET PRIME ...

        THE TRUE IS THAT YOU BUY V15 AND YOU GET PRIME AS A USELESS GIFT...

         

         

        PS: PTC earns each day more and more customers who are angry ...

        • MikeArmstrong Diamond 3,707 posts since
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          Mar 31, 2014 12:38 PM (in response to ptc-3774368)
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          shemy yaacoby wrote:

           

          Werner Exinger wrote:

           

          WHY TO BUY UN-USEFULL PRIME ?

          Because you get a free copy of Mathcad 15 :-)

          YOU ARE RIGHT...

          IT IS THE ONLY WAY PTC CAN FORCE US TO GET PRIME ...

          THE TRUE IS THAT YOU BUY V15 AND YOU GET PRIME AS A USELESS GIFT...

           

           

          PS: PTC earns each day more and more customers who are angry ...

          A little harsh if you ask me. I would no say Prime 3.0 is useless. On the contrary it is missing features from M15, but still has a lot to offer.

  • ValeryOchkov Platinum 5,946 posts since
    Sep 26, 2008
    Currently Being Moderated
    Dec 4, 2013 9:26 PM (in response to ptc-3275727)
    Re: PTC Mathcad Prime 3.0 now available

    Mathcad 15 for old users.

    Mathcad Prime for new users.

    And no problem.

     

    PS

    Prime for olds too!

  • ptc-185959 Copper 13 posts since
    Jul 8, 2005
    Currently Being Moderated
    Mar 28, 2014 10:40 AM (in response to ptc-3275727)
    Re: PTC Mathcad Prime 3.0 now available

    Since I last checked in October, I note that PTC has updated their release calendar to extend "Standard Support" for Mathcad 15 to the release of Prime 5 (had been Prime 4).  There are more updates to 15 (including one as recent as December) than all three releases of Prime; it is obvious what this says...

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