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ptc-1419005 Copper 89 posts since
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Mathcad 14

Has anyone know a bit info for the upcoming Mathcad 14? What is the new feature & When will it going to be marketed?
  • superres Silver 7,759 posts since
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    Nov 8, 2006 12:00 AM (in response to ptc-1419005)
    Mathcad 14
    On 11/8/2006 12:50:14 AM, yohanesk wrote:
    >Has anyone know a bit info for
    >the upcoming Mathcad 14? What
    >is the new feature & When will
    >it going to be marketed?

    Most companies will tend to be vague about any potential future products, because some people might wind up holding off purchases until the new version comes out.

    TTFN,
    Eden
    • BruceMcnair Copper 1 posts since
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      Feb 14, 2007 12:00 AM (in response to superres)
      Mathcad 14
      Well, now that it has been announced, I have a question: does anyone know about compatibility of v14 with the extension packs (e.g., signal processing) from previous versions, e.g., the v12 packs and the v13 updates? I can't find anything on the PTC or Mathsoft site that addresses this aspect of the new version.
  • A.Non Diamond 10,072 posts since
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    Feb 14, 2007 12:00 AM (in response to BruceMcnair)
    Mathcad 14
    I don't think anyone has a good answer yet:

    http://collab.mathsoft.com/~Mathcad2000/read?94503,11e#94503

    Richard
    • shie0041 Copper 25 posts since
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      Mar 1, 2007 12:00 AM (in response to A.Non)
      Mathcad 14
      I just upgraded to Mathcad 14 from Mathcad 13 with numerous extension packs installed. They all seem to work fine with no extra work on my behalf.

      I haven't done a thorough check of all of these, in part because I mostly used the SOEP which is no longer available. However, I do have a worksheet with the center() function from the Image Processing Extension Pack and this function continues to work fine.

      I guess I try to avoid using these extra functions whenever possible as they make worksheets less portable. Frankly I only ever used the center() function to convince myself that my own fftshift() function works correctly.

      I have opened the tables of contents for a variety of the extension packs and there is no problem with these. They appear under the Resources toolbar and under Help|E-Books.

      -Eric
      • PhilipOakley Silver 2,078 posts since
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        Mar 2, 2007 12:00 AM (in response to shie0041)
        Mathcad 14
        I have been reasonably pleased with V14.

        I now have V14 and V11 side by side. There is enough water under the bridge since V12.


        Philip Oakley
        • StuartBruff Platinum 4,728 posts since
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          Mar 6, 2007 12:00 AM (in response to ptc-1419005)
          Mathcad 14
          On 3/6/2007 4:50:46 AM, yohanesk wrote:
          == Is it possible to keep 2 different version (let's say version 10 and 14, a bit far version) running smoothly in the same PC?

          Yes, but from 11 only (I haven't tried with any earlier versions and PTC(Mathsoft) state M11 onwards only.

          I received M14 yesterday, installed it and ran it simultaneously with M11 and M13. No problems seen on the initial runs.

          Stuart
  • SylvainFlamant Copper 53 posts since
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    Mar 2, 2007 12:00 AM (in response to PhilipOakley)
    Mathcad 14
    Thank you for letting us know. From the first feedbacks I see in the Collaboratory, at least 2 early users of MCAD14 seem pleased.
    We will know more pretty soon, but so far it looks like a solid version...

    Like you, I am keeping 2 running versions on my computer . MCAD11 and MCAD13 in my case. Occasionally I use MCAD11 as a favor to a couple of colleagues who still have very old versions at home. My boss once asked me to translate a MCAD13 file to MCAD8 ! , and yesterday a colleague asked me if I could convert his file to a MCAD2000 format.


    sylvain flamant
  • SteenGroðe Diamond 1,172 posts since
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    Mar 6, 2007 12:00 AM (in response to StuartBruff)
    Mathcad 14
    You can run even older version beside version 11.2 but the result will not always be predictable and your windows associations will change from each run. Version 4 and 6 always takes over the association of the mcd extension.
    And you may have to use the regtool from time to time to repair things in the registry.

    The versions I think it is nice to have in store is v6, v2000sp1 (not sp2), and v.11.2.

    My reasons for this is that v6 was the last version to run under win3.1 and the fileformat is human readable, v2000sp1 was the last with a nice output of roots, exponents and fractions (they have fixed a part of this in v14, but not all), and version 11.2 is the last without SUC and the easiest access to the symbolic calculations.
    I keep v13 at the moment but despite it is the last with the maple machine I'll probably drop this version in a while.

    Steen Gro�e
  • TomGutman Silver 10,537 posts since
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    Mar 7, 2007 12:00 AM (in response to mzeftel)
    Mathcad 14
    >>The Reference Documentation for Mathcad is posted at http://www.ptc.com/appserver/cs/doc/refdoc.jsp
    <<

    But only for people with a maintenance agreement. Normal users cannot access that location.

    � � � � Tom Gutman
  • SteenGroðe Diamond 1,172 posts since
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    Mar 8, 2007 12:00 AM (in response to Ninetrees)
    Mathcad 14 updated release notes
    Same here. I may though have got some paper at some time with a customernumber or something but honestly I didn't pay much attention to this and I really don't know where it is today if I ever got one. I am even not sure if it was on paper or in an e-mail.
    So I am left in the dark as well.

    Steen Gro�e
    • AlNavas Copper 32 posts since
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      Mar 8, 2007 12:00 AM (in response to SteenGroðe)
      Mathcad 14 updated release notes
      Exactly the same thing. I registered v. 13, but never got or was told I needed anything else.


      Al
      • mzeftel Gold 2,704 posts since
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        Mar 9, 2007 12:00 AM (in response to AlNavas)
        Mathcad 14 updated release notes
        The posted documentation is for maintenance customers only, who get a sales number with their maintenance license. It's the same documentation that is already on your Mathcad CD.

        The only documentation that does get updated on the Web is the Release Notes.

        I specifically marked the updated Release Notes to be visible to all Mathcad users.

        Since that doesn't seem to be happening, I will make sure the updated Release Notes gets posted on another page, and put the link in the announcements section of the User Forums.

        Mona
        • Ninetrees Silver 649 posts since
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          Mar 9, 2007 12:00 AM (in response to mzeftel)
          Mathcad 14 updated release notes
            • SteenGroðe Diamond 1,172 posts since
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              Mar 27, 2007 12:00 AM (in response to ptc-1419005)
              Mathcad 14 updated release notes
              I haven't tried but I have just experienced one of my students vista machine that can install v11 but FlexLM won't allow the program to run.
              We did try to start Mathcad in XPsp2 compatible mode with the same result.

              Steen Gro�e
            • ptc-1488667 Copper 3 posts since
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              Apr 3, 2007 12:00 AM (in response to ptc-1419005)
              Mathcad 14 updated release notes
              Hi,
              I'm getting the same error note with Mathcad 14 and Vista.

              Regards,
              Matti
            • ptc-1488667 Copper 3 posts since
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              Apr 3, 2007 12:00 AM (in response to ptc-1419005)
              Mathcad 14 updated release notes
              Hi,
              I'm getting the same error note with MathCad 14 and Vista.

              Regards,
              Matti

              On 3/26/2007 11:58:01 PM, yohanesk wrote:
              >Dear All,
              >
              >Is there anyone who tried to
              >install Mathcad14 under Vista
              >environment? I did a fresh
              >installation of it in my
              >laptop - Windows Vista
              >Ultimate (full, not upgrade
              >version of Vista, but OEM) and
              >I received this error message
              >after installing msxml4 sp2 &
              >mathcad14 when I tried to call
              >mathcad: "Unable to create
              >12.0 engine factory".
              >Please let me know what to do
              >or is there any update
              >regarding this issue? or
              >perhaps I forgot something
              >else? I only install msxml,
              >not dotfx or another else, all
              >required in Vista?
              >Thank you.
              >
              >Regards,
              >Yohanes


              • mzeftel Gold 2,704 posts since
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                Apr 4, 2007 12:00 AM (in response to ptc-1488667)
                Mathcad 14 and Vista
                We are currently testing Mathcad 14 with Vista.
                Here are some notes from our testing:

                Mathcad can not install everything unless the user is an Administrator on the machine.

                One workaround is to select Control Panel->Users Account, click on �Turn Users Account Controls On or Off� link. Uncheck �Use User Account Control (UAC) to help protect your computer� check box. Reboot the machine, uninstall Mathcad 14 and install it again.

                Here is a link for getting older programs to work in Vista:

                http://support.microsoft.com/kb/927386/en-us

                Mona
                • SteenGroðe Diamond 1,172 posts since
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                  Apr 5, 2007 12:00 AM (in response to mzeftel)
                  Mathcad 14 and Vista
                  On 4/4/2007 9:31:40 AM, MonaZ wrote:

                  >We are currently testing
                  >Mathcad 14 with Vista.

                  >Mona

                  But, Mona, as far as I can figure out the issue is that FlexLM isn't allowed to run. So the cure is to tell us how we can convince Vista that it is allowed. And remember this is not just a MC v14 issue, but related to all versions back to 2001i.

                  The easy way to fix it will be to release license free versions of the older versions (at least up till and including v11.2) as service packs but I guess you won't go that way.

                  Another way is just to convince all the laptop companies that they shall sell their computers without Vista but I guess this will be a lost cause.

                  A third way is to tell everybody that their will have to use either Vista Pro or MacOS both with VirtualPC (it is given away for free from Microsoft) and to run a WinXP in a virtual environment, but I guess this will not be very likely to convince people to do this.

                  A last way it to loose business...

                  Did I miss any options?

                  Steen Gro�e
                  • PhilipOakley Silver 2,078 posts since
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                    Dec 23, 2007 12:00 AM (in response to SteenGroðe)
                    Mathcad 11, etc. and Vista
                    On 4/5/2007 10:50:50 AM, sgrode wrote:
                    >On 4/4/2007 9:31:40 AM, MonaZ wrote:
                    >We
                    >are currently testing
                    >Mathcad 14 with
                    >Vista.

                    >Mona

                    >But, Mona, as far as I
                    >can figure out the issue is that FlexLM
                    >isn't allowed to run. So the cure is to
                    >tell us how we can convince Vista that
                    >it is allowed. And remember this is not
                    >just a MC v14 issue, but related to all
                    >versions back to 2001i.

                    >The easy way to
                    >fix it will be to release license free
                    >versions of the older versions (at least
                    >up till and including v11.2) as service
                    >packs but I guess you won't go that
                    >way.

                    >Another way is just to convince
                    >all the laptop companies that they shall
                    >sell their computers without Vista but I
                    >guess this will be a lost cause.

                    >A
                    >third way is to tell everybody that
                    >their will have to use either Vista Pro
                    >or MacOS both with VirtualPC (it is
                    >given away for free from Microsoft) and
                    >to run a WinXP in a virtual environment,
                    >but I guess this will not be very likely
                    >to convince people to do this.

                    > A last way it to loose business...

                    >Did I miss any options?

                    >Steen Gro�e

                    Has anyone found the right way of loading V11 in Vista?

                    This is for a standard home install with a licence file, not an enterprise netweork served license

                    Philip Oakley
              • mzeftel Gold 2,704 posts since
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                Apr 4, 2007 12:00 AM (in response to ptc-1488667)
                Mathcad 14 and Vista
                We are currently testing Mathcad 14 with Vista.
                Here are some notes from our testing:

                Mathcad can not install everything unless the user is an Administrator on the machine.

                One workaround is to select Control Panel->Users Account, click on �Turn Users Account Controls On or Off� link. Uncheck �Use User Account Control (UAC) to help protect your computer� check box. Reboot the machine, uninstall Mathcad 14 and install it again.

                Here is a link for getting older programs to work in Vista:

                http://support.microsoft.com/kb/927386/en-us

                Mona
        • AshishSharma Bronze 50 posts since
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          Feb 22, 2012 4:15 AM (in response to mzeftel)
          Re: Mathcad 14 updated release notes

          Hello,

          Please provide the working link for release notes of Mathcad 14 and 15. I need to know about bugs and fixes about memory leak. All the links I found need account upgradation.

           

          Thanks,

          Ashish

  • TomGutman Silver 10,537 posts since
    Oct 22, 2006
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    Mar 8, 2007 12:00 AM (in response to mzeftel)
    Mathcad 14 updated release notes
    I have a PTC account. When I use that link I am prompted to sign in. I can sign in successfully. I am then told that I cannot access that page, that I need the "customer service access" privilege. I am invited to upgrade my account via the "my account summary". I can got through that and get to the upgrad screen. But then I need a customer number and either a service contract number or a sales order number or a site number. I don't have any of these.

    � � � � Tom Gutman
  • superres Silver 7,759 posts since
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    Mar 8, 2007 12:00 AM (in response to mzeftel)
    Mathcad 14 updated release notes
    Seems to work OK. I see version 13 and 14 documents

    TTFN,
    Eden
  • PhilipOakley Silver 2,078 posts since
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    Dec 23, 2007 12:00 AM (in response to SteenGroðe)
    Mathcad 11, etc. and Vista
    Thank you for the Private Message.

    At the core of the matter is the use, by vista (as I understand it), of the terminal server client window method for running the different applications. This method was introduced by microsoft when windows 2003 terminalserver was released. It is meant to mean each program runs indepenedently in its own workspace, which means they can't communicate, so you can't echange a licence with Flex etc!.

    for those with enterprise systems we have case 2 of:
    "
    http://www-curri.u-strasbg.fr/documentation/calcul/doc/ProPack/3SP1/docs/doc/lmsgi-9.2.3/flexref/chap18.htm

    FLEXlm
    Reference Manual
    Version 9.2
    July 2003

    18.4 Windows Terminal Server Support
    FLEXlm detects when a node-locked uncounted license is running under Windows Terminal Server. To run on Terminal Server client machines, the license is node-locked to the Terminal Server machine and the TS_OK keyword is added to the license. For example:

    FEATURE f1 xyzd 1.00 1-jan-2005 uncounted HOSTID=ts_hostid \
    TS_OK SIGN=sign

    Without the TS_OK keyword on a feature line, a user running on a Terminal Server client machine will be denied use of a license. In each of the following cases, application A is installed on a Terminal Server machine with its license locked to Terminal Server machine�s hostid.

    Case 1: Users can run application A on the terminal server machine by sitting at the terminal server machine, whether or not the feature line contains the TS_OK keyword. The license is checked out as though it was a regular node-locked license.

    Case 2: If the feature line does not contain the TS_OK keyword and a user tries to run application A from a Terminal Server Client window, an error is generated (License fails to checkout, -103).

    Case 3: If the feature line contains the TS_OK keyword and one or more users try to run application A from a Terminal Server Client window, the license is checked out and the application can run. If the feature line contains the TS_OK keyword, FLEXlm does not provide a way to limit the number of clients that can use this node-locked license.

    Counted licenses behave on a Terminal Server Client as they do on any other machines on a network.
    "

    The -103 error is the one I'm seeing.

    I've posted this element so that at least we have a reference to (one of) the core elements.

    I'm off to see if a licence file with the TS_OK can be generated, or whether other case (#3) means they say no.

    Philip Oakley

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