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jonathan.hodgson Gold 458 posts since
Nov 18, 2009
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Jan 16, 2012 9:18 AM

Minor but annoying - easy improvements?

Following another thread about real-world use versus PTC trainers' knowledge, how about we start a list of small things, which ought to be relatively easy for PTC to change, that nonetheless annoy you on a day-to-day basis (and always seem to be passed over in favour of introducing dashboards and ribbons)?

 

Since various PTC people contribute here, if we keep it tidy and concise perhaps some of our issues could be considered for addressing in imminent versions of Pro/E / Creo (/wishful thinking...)

 

So, here are some starters:

 

  • Angle x D chamfers almost always choose the wrong direction for the angle by default
  • Surface merges almost always choose the wrong sides of the quilts to keep by default
  • Save a Copy leaves you editing the original model (opposite to Windows Save As), whilst Backup leaves you editing the backup model (why would you make a backup and then change the backup?)
  • When you're working in "widget.prt" and you create a new drawing, Pro/E assumes the name "drw0001".  How likely is it that you don't want to create "widget.drw" at this point?
  • BurtLand Bronze 96 posts since
    Sep 9, 2010
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    1. Jan 17, 2012 2:32 AM (in response to jonathan.hodgson)
    Re: Minor but annoying - easy improvements?
    • displays x-sections from the wrong side
    • mouse-over transparent hightlite goes solid if transparency turned off
  • RandyMorrison Bronze 25 posts since
    Feb 19, 2011
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    2. Jan 17, 2012 3:21 AM (in response to jonathan.hodgson)
    Re: Minor but annoying - easy improvements?
    • Panning in 3D is SHIFT > Middle Mouse Button while 2D is Middle Mouse Button only. Should be the same between modules.
    • Inability to return CONFIG.PRO back to Default settings.
  • RobertMcKibben Copper 5 posts since
    Jun 16, 2011
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    3. Jan 18, 2012 2:25 PM (in response to jonathan.hodgson)
    Re: Minor but annoying - easy improvements?
    • Go back to the "Show/Erase" dialog that was used up until WF4.
    • Go back to the "Assign color" dialog that was used up until WF4
    • Make it so that the dashboard can be moved to the bottom of the screen
    • Make it so that the first construction line (or centerline) you insert is the axis of revolution by default

     

    I've only been using it for a couple days, I'll be back with more.

  • KevinBradberry Diamond 307 posts since
    Jun 7, 2010
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    4. Jan 19, 2012 8:27 AM (in response to jonathan.hodgson)
    Re: Minor but annoying - easy improvements?
    • The text editor must be updated.  You cannot even do the simplest thing, make an ordered list.
  • RandyMorrison Bronze 25 posts since
    Feb 19, 2011
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    5. Jan 19, 2012 9:24 AM (in response to jonathan.hodgson)
    Re: Minor but annoying - easy improvements?
    • It would be nice to click a feature in the Model Tree and choose to edit the sketch definition with a right mouse click as an option instead of expanding the feature, highlighting the sketch and then choosing Edit Definition.
    • Another nice feature would be to choose to keep the original sketch when deleting features. Currently, when deleting the feature, the sketch gets deleted as well. If you want to re-use, you must re-create from scratch.
  • KevinBradberry Diamond 307 posts since
    Jun 7, 2010
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    6. Jan 19, 2012 9:31 AM (in response to RandyMorrison)
    Re: Minor but annoying - easy improvements?

     

    • Another nice feature would be to choose to keep the original sketch when deleting features. Currently, when deleting the feature, the sketch gets deleted as well. If you want to re-use, you must re-create from scratch.

    I agree that would be better, it would prevent headaches, but I just want to point out for those that may not know that the sketch could be created as it own entity so that it would not be lost when deleting a feature that references it.

  • RandyMorrison Bronze 25 posts since
    Feb 19, 2011
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    7. Jan 19, 2012 9:40 AM (in response to KevinBradberry)
    Re: Minor but annoying - easy improvements?

    Good point Kevin!

     

    I mentioned it as a timesaver, for when I create or work with large models I prefer not to do separate sketches for it increases the length of the tree and harder to work on the part model.

     

    Thanks for the reminder.

  • David_M Silver 179 posts since
    Dec 30, 2010
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    8. Jan 21, 2012 1:50 PM (in response to jonathan.hodgson)
    Re: Minor but annoying - easy improvements?
    • Selection filters on demand! I want to be able to tell Creo to only select faces, edges, or verticies when I want to, and I want a way to stop it from selecting entities which are hidden behind 20 other entities, non of which are visible. A really basic request.

     

    • I'd also like buttons to toggle the display of certain layers quickly. Having to go to the layers list, select a layer, right click > hide and return to the model tree is plain daft. I can't be the only person who toggles curves and surfaces more than datum axes, points and csys.

     

    • When you expand a feature (offest > expand) the offset face should retain the same identity as the original face, so that child features update. Currently this isn't the case.

     

    • Mirror features do not update and cannot be redefined. Obviously this is no good. The only exception is if you mirror a whole part.

     

    • There should be a way to update all sketch references automatically, rather than having to open each feature and update each reference, which is automatic anyway.

     

    • When regenerating, the Cancel button just starts the regen over again.

     

    • There should be a "revert to last save" feature (like in AutoCAD), and a "repalce with version" feature.

     

    • A way to split surfaces/faces that aren't connected when Pro/E thinks they are. See here

     

    I'm sure I'll think of more.

  • FrankS.Schiavone Platinum 1,305 posts since
    Sep 8, 2011
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    10. Jan 26, 2012 6:39 AM (in response to jonathan.hodgson)
    Re: Minor but annoying - easy improvements?

    Dump the ribbon in drawing mode in it's entirety, dump the stupid "lead vs. follow" workflow garbage, and bring back the pre WF interface with intelligent updates.  Get rid of the "click anywhere in the field of the drawing to exit a command" and use the escape key.  Having to zoom out far enough to clear views, snap lines, etc. totally ***.

  • KevinBradberry Diamond 307 posts since
    Jun 7, 2010
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    12. Jan 26, 2012 6:52 AM (in response to FrankS.Schiavone)
    Re: Minor but annoying - easy improvements?

    Frank Schiavone wrote:

     

    Having to zoom out far enough to clear views, snap lines, etc. totally ***.

    Make a mapkey that goes Edit>Select>Deselect all.  You'll no longer have to zoom out to find empty space to click in.

  • FrankS.Schiavone Platinum 1,305 posts since
    Sep 8, 2011
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    13. Jan 26, 2012 10:19 AM (in response to KevinBradberry)
    Re: Minor but annoying - easy improvements?

    Why not PTC just abandons the "click" thing and go to the "Esc" key?  The mapkey's will be useless next version anyways, like most of mine are now.....

  • BillR Copper 6 posts since
    Aug 18, 2011
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    14. Jan 26, 2012 11:13 AM (in response to jonathan.hodgson)
    Re: Minor but annoying - easy improvements?

    Since text editing and layout is difficult to manage in a multi-line note, be able to remove external lines of a table. Then item number and text can be easily tabulated and modified. Also, be able to attach an arrow to that multi-line note.

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